The Heathen Mythbuster

The Heathen Mythbuster

About the blog

As long as I have been on online heathen forums, I have encountered many modern myths. The internet are full of strange and wonderful theories and that is great, but many of them are not based on real facts or are ignoring facts to get their homegrown theory to fit. I will try to find the facts about these theories and share them here. Some of the posts will properly have to be rewritten/changed to accommodate new data or data I wasn’t aware of then posting the information on the first time. That’s only an natural development for such a blog.
Since I am Danish and English isn’t my first language, I will properly make many grammatical and spelling mistakes. Please bear over with me.

Laugardagr is NOT Loki's Day

MiscellaneousPosted by Kim Pierri Mon, April 01, 2019 10:51:13

This meme have been shared on different Facebook pages.

The problem with the Meme is saying that Saturday (laugardagr in Old Norse) have someting to do with Lokis day. Laugardagr should be translated to “bathing day”, since the Old Norse word “Laug” means bath. Source: https://ordnet.dk/ods/ordbog?query=l%C3%B8rdag&tab=for

The Meme is correct when talking about Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday (although it’s not clear from the sources if Friday is Frigg or Freya). It’s also clear that Monday and Sunday is The Day of the Moon and The day of the Sun. The names seem to be a translation of the Latin names for the day. If the Old Norse peoples saw these days as days pertain to the deified moon and sun we really don’t know, but it does seem likely. Source http://denstoredanske.dk/Nordisk_Mytologi/Begreber/ugedage

Added 2019-05-01

Some have referred to this article for the connection between Loki and Laugardagr: http://honortheroots.com/laugardagr/?fbclid=IwAR2UIwD9SIxwIVpaKOMa_KXPgUMlaBBf2FFHdY0OKUCdkUVrFRd7bexZi1k

The article don’t really add anything serious to the debate. The argument in the article comes down to the suggestion that the name of the day was changed from Loki’s day to Laugardagr because the Christians didn’t want to have a day named after Loki and the article continues “Some scholars have suggested that Laugardagr was actually named after Loki. “Loke,” being an Lokis Dayabbreviation and later adaptation from the word “Lodurr” – suggesting that Laugardagr is also a name that is based upon a one of our gods.”

I have not been able to identify who these ”scholars” are. There are some scholars think that the god named Lodurr is the same as Loki. It is not a general accepted theory, but it could be. We don’t really know. But I have not heard about any scholar that connect the name Lodurr to the Laugar in Laugardagr. The two words doesn’t seem to have anything in common with each other, except they both begins with an “L”






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Looking at a modern symbol

MiscellaneousPosted by Kim Pierri Thu, December 06, 2018 08:54:19

Someone asked about a picture on “The Viking Way” Facebook group. I made this version with definitions you see below this text.

Vegvísir is a post-medieval Icelandic symbol. It only survive in the Huld Manuscript from 1880. The text going with the symbol in the manuscript is "if this sign is carried, one will never lose one's way in storms or bad weather, even when the way is not known".

Around the Vegvísir a sentence from Tolkiens poem “All that is gold does not glitter” written in Elder Futhark. The text says: “Not All [those] Who Wander Are Lost”. The text in the brackets are only in the poem, not on the picture.

The ravens seem to be a modern design and the tree design is properly inspired by the trees on “The Gate of Moria” as I see it, but is clearly Ask Yggdrasil with its 3 roots.





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Jord/Yard Meme

MiscellaneousPosted by Kim Pierri Fri, August 18, 2017 10:58:00

This meme will appear regularly in different Facebook pages.

When I read the Meme I feel it makes four statements, and I will look into each:

1. Jord was the first wife of Odin and mother of Thor.

This is true, it can be attested in the lore (look for references in Simek; Dictionary of Northern Mythology: p. 179)

2. She (Jord) was also known as mother Earth

This is a bit harder. I can’t seem to find any reference to anyone in ancient Scandinavia talking about a “Mother Earth”. It’s mainly a modern concept used to associate the same function in different mythologies around the world. It is not clear to Ymir, the giant from which Midgard was made and me the relationship with the goddess Jord.

3. Her name Jord was pronounces Yard

I don’t know which lauguage it is referring to, I don’t know old norse but in modern Scandinavian language Jord are pronounced different from the English Yard.

4. It literally means Earth or Land! And is why we call parsel of land a Yard

Let’s start with the English word Yard. There are two origins of the word yard. The first one are the measurement from the Old English word Gerd, meaning Stick/rod (from the yardstick that was used to measure length). This is not the word referred to in the Meme.

The other meaning of Yard are a "patch of ground around a house" from Old English geard or Old Norse garðr. (source http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=yard&fref=gc)

I have looked at the danish word Jord, and it has its origin in the Old Norse word jörð and the old english word eorþe. From http://ordnet.dk/ddo/ordbog?query=jord

So you see, that the old Norse/Scandinavian word Jord for earth/soil/goddess have different old Norse and old English origins. So there are no common origin between the words

I will add an observation here, that the English word Yard has a connection to the Old Norse word garðr (fence), which are part of Old Norse Miðgarðr (Midgard), which are one of the 9 worlds and the world the humans live in. But saying that because Midgard are the fenced area where the humans lives and a fenced area around you house are the same word is a bit of a stretch. I will also say that we don’t know if the Goddess are Jord are associated with Midgard, or maybe the soil.



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Midgard Serpent at the Mid-Ocean ridge

MiscellaneousPosted by Kim Pierri Tue, December 06, 2016 10:12:58
I have many times seen this manipolated picture on Facebook:

Often followed by this text:

The myths are an storehouse of infinite knowledge. They speak of the Midgard Serpent lying at the bottom of the see. He encircles the globe and when he moved great earth trembles cause terrible convulsions. Most believe this is just a tale, but the ancient knew of his existence at the bottom of the oceans. Now, with modern technology, we can see for ourselves that the Myths were true--he does exist. But how did primitive Norsemen know of this great belt of fissions at the bottom of the oceans? Perhaps they were not primitive as most people think they were? Did they have knowledge passed down to them from thousands of years earlier, in a time when their ancestors had built an advance civilization, more advance than ours' today? But when it collapsed, their knowledge were encoded in Myths passed down from generation to generation? Take a look at the maps once more and think about it. - unknown author


My comment:

It is funny and might be an interpretation of the myth into modern cosmology we can use today, but the thing about “advance civilization, more advance than ours' today” are at best silly and a little insulting to our ancestors, who did amazing things with the technology available to them. Notice that the map is manipulated. The lines they have highlighted are boundaries between tectonic plates, but they have just selected those that fit with what they want you to see. Humans are experts to notice patterns and if you condition people to see a pattern they will do so.

Most of the boundaries they have chosen are the mid-ocean ridge, but not all. The ridges at the west coast of Greenland are very small and not active anymore and in the pacific there are only ridges in short areas along the Californian coast and none along the Aleutian Islands. On the map above the mid-ocean ridge are colored red. I have modified the original map to show this. Notice how the serpent has disappeared.

They have chosen to include the destructive line along the Californian coast and the destructive boundary along The Aleutian Islands. If they decided to include island arcs and destructive plate boundaries, then there are plenty of more places that need to be included in the picture. They are included as lines with lumps on in the picture. If you include all of them, then there are no serpent either. Se the map below.



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