WarriorsPosted by Kim Pierri Tue, November 20, 2018 14:25:52
The artcile is i Danish, i will soon make an english translation.
I artiklen “Tattooed
Vikings? A look at medieval body art” på medievalists.net skriver Minjie Su “He
also describes images of wild boars that the Aestyans or the amber-gatherers
‘wear’ to honour and invoke protection from the Mother of the Gods. ‘This alone
serves them for arms, this is the safeguard of all, and by this every
worshipper of the Goddess is secured even amidst his foes. Rare amongst them is
the use of weapons of iron, but frequent that of clubs.’ The boar tattoo, if
Tacitus can be trusted, offers an interesting comparison to the animal design
of the Scots.”
Min latinske viden er ikke særlig stor, så derfor er jeg nødt
til at kigge på oversættelser af Tacitus. Jeg har et par stykker, så dem har
jeg kigget igennem. Det der er interessant er henvisningerne til Aestiskernes
Stamme og deres brug af vildsvin som beskyttelse i kamp. Det citerede stykke (fra
kapitel 45.2) lyder jo som om der er tale om billeder på kroppen. Når jeg
kigger i de oversættelser jeg har, så kan jeg ikke finde belæg for denne
I den nyeste danske oversættelse (Taticus: Germania, oversat
af Allan A. Lund, Wormianum 2016) står der ”Som symbol på deres tro bærer de
alle figurer af vildsvin, og det er typisk for dem at gå med denne talisman i
stedet for våben”
I Taticus: Germania og Agricola oversat af H. H. Lefolii udgiver
at Bonde og Bonde forlag 1966 står der ”Som et til denne gudetro hørende mærke
bærer de genstande, der har skikkelse af Vildsvin”
I Tacitus: Germania 1 oversat af Niels Bruun og Allen Lund (Wormianum
1974) står der ”Som symbol for deres tro bærer de figurer af Vildsvin”.
Jeg kan som sagt ikke latin, men når nu alle de oversættelser
omtaler talismænd/genstande/figurer, så er der nok ikke tale om tatoveringer.
Artiklen jeg omtaler findes her: http://www.medievalists.net/2018/05/tattooed-vikings-a-look-at-medieval-body-art/?fbclid=IwAR0FfDbOILaPz4SRHj0FGBVQFK7Omb5LL2koDf-iA0lvd5w0zQBfVGIpoFU
WarriorsPosted by Kim Pierri Fri, April 21, 2017 10:21:19
are sharing the following Meme at the moment
thing that’s true in that meme are that it is mind blown.
come from a modern game named Skyrim and was invented to make some guards have a
conversation. For more information see this link
WarriorsPosted by Kim Pierri Thu, September 22, 2016 09:28:42
In a debate
about berserkers, someone mentioned that berserker graves had been found and
googling I found two articles who both are talking about a grave found I Hårup
in Jutland Denmark:
one I read doesn’t really tell us much about why they think that man in the
grave was a berserker. http://www.newhistorian.com/grave-axe-wielding-viking-berserker-found-denmark/6983/
His only reference
are an article on News Corp Australia. I also found that article: Viking burial
site in Denmark contained a warrior — and his enormous axe
The first I
looked at said: “IT seems there’s some truth in the myths after all.
Archaeologists in Denmark have found the burial site of a Viking ‘berserker’
warrior — complete with an oversized battle axe”
reference archeologist Kirsten Nelleman Nielsen (who they clearly think are a
man) and say that the find are reported in “Dead and buried in the Viking Age”
from Saxo Institute at The University of Copenhagen. They don’t know it, but it’s
a compendium of articles from a Symposium at the institute from 2016 (I went
there myself and listened to the presentations). The journalist doesn’t seem to
have read the article in the book, because he wrote: “His findings, Dead and
buried in the Viking Age, have been published by the Saxo Institute at the
University of Copenhangen” [SIC!]
When I read
through the article, none of its contents appear to be talking about
berserkers. It only talks about the grave and say that an enormous axe was
found in the grave.
in News Corp Australia also says: “It [the axe] was the sole possession found among
the bones of a particularly strong man”. That is also an invention of the
journalist, because the article in “Dead and buried in the Viking Age” says
that there was very little human remains found and that they determined the sex
of the buried peoples by the grave goods. That also follow, that they couldn’t determinate
the size or musculature of the buried man. I would surmise that the journalist thought,
that a man buried with such a large axe, must have been big and muscular.
journalist also reference two articles more:
those articles mentions a berserker.
like the part of it being a berserkergrave are an invention of the journalist
at Australian News Corp and that others have referenced him on other pages.
None of them read the original article. The journalist at “The new historian”
even uses material not found in the Australian News Corp, but in the 2 articleslinked
from there, but not noticing, that those articles doesn’t talk about
can read from the original article in “Dead and buried in the Viking Age” are
that this grave original was with two wooden build rooms, the female had a lot
of high status grave goods in her grave and in the male grave, there was only found
a very large axe. Later another graveroom was added to the grave with a male also
containing an axe. The article also says that axes are the weapon mostly found
in norse graves from the Viking Age.
The 2 articles
that claims that the buried man was a berserker also base their interpretation on
that his only gravegoods was the large axe. The problem with that
interpretation are that in the burialground no organics material have been preserved.
Segments of Wood, fur or cloths are only preserved when it was in contact with
metal objects. So there could have been more in his grave, that hasn’t survived
to this day.
archeologist estimates that the reason the man has a large axe in his grave are
to mark his status as a warrior and a chieftain, but not a word of berserkers.
I have read
the Danish version of the book from the Saxo Instirute (the English version are
a translation of that book):
Død og begravet – I vikingetiden, ed. Jens Ulriksen and