The Heathen Mythbuster

The Heathen Mythbuster

About the blog

As long as I have been on online heathen forums, I have encountered many modern myths. The internet are full of strange and wonderful theories and that is great, but many of them are not based on real facts or are ignoring facts to get their homegrown theory to fit. I will try to find the facts about these theories and share them here. Some of the posts will properly have to be rewritten/changed to accommodate new data or data I wasn’t aware of then posting the information on the first time. That’s only an natural development for such a blog.
Since I am Danish and English isn’t my first language, I will properly make many grammatical and spelling mistakes. Please bear over with me.

There are NO viking settlement on Point Rosee in Canada

MigrationPosted by Kim Pierri Sat, April 20, 2019 11:21:18

In 2014 the amazing Satellitearcheologist Sarah Parcak examined the Canadian coastline to look for more Viking settlement as part of a BBC program ““Vikings Unearthed””. She found some interesting shapes in Point Rosee on Newfoundland and on a test excavation she found what she thought was “an iron-working hearth partially surrounded by the remains of what appears to have been a turf wall.”. For her results you can read this article from 2016: https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2016/03/160331-viking-discovery-north-america-canada-archaeology/

Unfortunately the report Parcak made after the excavation didn’t suppert the first optimistic articles. Both the Bog Iron and the turf was after further tested shown to be natural deposits. You can read more in this article: https://www.northernpen.ca/news/local/archaeology-report-confirms-no-evidence-of-norse-presence-at-point-rosee-in-southwestern-newfoundland-214092/

It is unfortunately that internet news pages doesn’t change articles after it has been shown that they contain outdated or wrong information. Those old positive articles from 2016 are still being shared on Facebook here in 2019. Yesterday there was also a “new” article produces. Unfortunately the new article “DISCOVERY OF VIKING SITE IN CANADA COULD REWRITE HISTORY” on Archeology World are an exact copy of and ond article on “The Vintage News”. IT has been copied word by word (it even says “last june” about events in 2015).

You can compare the articles here:

The Copy on Archeology World: https://www.archaeology-world.com/discovery-of-viking-site-in-canada-could-rewrite-history/?fbclid=IwAR3uEaulZX5vZyctfkX9F2SY518V6i24i9q7k-Pw48fS87rAeCB5x_1aqEY

The original article from 2016 https://www.thevintagenews.com/2016/10/09/discovery-of-1000-year-old-viking-site-in-canada-could-rewrite-history/





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Laugardagr is NOT Loki's Day

MiscellaneousPosted by Kim Pierri Mon, April 01, 2019 10:51:13

This meme have been shared on different Facebook pages.

The problem with the Meme is saying that Saturday (laugardagr in Old Norse) have someting to do with Lokis day. Laugardagr should be translated to “bathing day”, since the Old Norse word “Laug” means bath. Source: https://ordnet.dk/ods/ordbog?query=l%C3%B8rdag&tab=for

The Meme is correct when talking about Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday (although it’s not clear from the sources if Friday is Frigg or Freya). It’s also clear that Monday and Sunday is The Day of the Moon and The day of the Sun. The names seem to be a translation of the Latin names for the day. If the Old Norse peoples saw these days as days pertain to the deified moon and sun we really don’t know, but it does seem likely. Source http://denstoredanske.dk/Nordisk_Mytologi/Begreber/ugedage

Added 2019-05-01

Some have referred to this article for the connection between Loki and Laugardagr: http://honortheroots.com/laugardagr/?fbclid=IwAR2UIwD9SIxwIVpaKOMa_KXPgUMlaBBf2FFHdY0OKUCdkUVrFRd7bexZi1k

The article don’t really add anything serious to the debate. The argument in the article comes down to the suggestion that the name of the day was changed from Loki’s day to Laugardagr because the Christians didn’t want to have a day named after Loki and the article continues “Some scholars have suggested that Laugardagr was actually named after Loki. “Loke,” being an Lokis Dayabbreviation and later adaptation from the word “Lodurr” – suggesting that Laugardagr is also a name that is based upon a one of our gods.”

I have not been able to identify who these ”scholars” are. There are some scholars think that the god named Lodurr is the same as Loki. It is not a general accepted theory, but it could be. We don’t really know. But I have not heard about any scholar that connect the name Lodurr to the Laugar in Laugardagr. The two words doesn’t seem to have anything in common with each other, except they both begins with an “L”






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Reading suggestion for new heathens/Asatru

Sources (including books)Posted by Kim Pierri Fri, February 15, 2019 07:07:17

I would start by reading the general history of the period by an acclaimed historian, could be Niel Price or Else Roesdahl.

Then I would read a retelling of the myths. It could be Norse Mythology by Niel Gaiman.

After that I would read a book about norse religion. A classic would be Myth and Religion of the North: The Religion of Ancient Scandinavia by Turville-Petra, but that is hard to get hold on. It could also be something like Scandinavian Mythology by Hilda Ellis Davidson.

Then I would read the sources.

The Elder Edda/The Poetic Edda (two names for the same work) is a collection of poems, most of them date back to heathen time. The Havamal many talk about is part of this collection. Read a modern translation of the complete set of poems. Could be the one by Carolyne Larrington, Jackson Crawford or Andy Ochard. Its always good to have several translations at hand to compare, when I doubt. Don’t read the 100 year old translations from the net as your first choice or all those “study Havamals” from internet shops.

Be a little more cautious with the younger Edda. It’s the Christian Snorri Sturlassons interpretation of the poems of The Poetic Edda. Its an important source, but has to be used with care. Read also a modern translation. I would suggest the one by Anthony Faulkes. That book can actually be found for free online

Its also good to read The Sagas of the Icelandars, The Heroic Sagas, Saxo and Snorris Heimskringla. As always read the modern translations if possible. The elder translations are usally is a hard to read language and has sometimes been altered to fit the morality of the time of the translation.

Then I would go on to other books, because I now have a good broad understanding of the history and myths. A lot of books about Germanic/norse and the runes religion by modern practiceners have a lot of modern ideas an ideology. That is what is to be expected. If you have a broad understanding before reading those, you can see what is what.

Some of the Elder stuff can be bought fairly cheaply from used bookstores, like Abebooks or the Amazon sellers. It is also a good idea to use inter-library loans if your local library doesn’t have the books.







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Looking at a modern symbol

MiscellaneousPosted by Kim Pierri Thu, December 06, 2018 08:54:19

Someone asked about a picture on “The Viking Way” Facebook group. I made this version with definitions you see below this text.

Vegvísir is a post-medieval Icelandic symbol. It only survive in the Huld Manuscript from 1880. The text going with the symbol in the manuscript is "if this sign is carried, one will never lose one's way in storms or bad weather, even when the way is not known".

Around the Vegvísir a sentence from Tolkiens poem “All that is gold does not glitter” written in Elder Futhark. The text says: “Not All [those] Who Wander Are Lost”. The text in the brackets are only in the poem, not on the picture.

The ravens seem to be a modern design and the tree design is properly inspired by the trees on “The Gate of Moria” as I see it, but is clearly Ask Yggdrasil with its 3 roots.





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Tatoveringer i Tacitus

WarriorsPosted by Kim Pierri Tue, November 20, 2018 14:25:52

The article is i Danish, i will soon make an english translation.

I artiklen “Tattooed Vikings? A look at medieval body art” på medievalists.net skriver Minjie Su “He also describes images of wild boars that the Aestyans or the amber-gatherers ‘wear’ to honour and invoke protection from the Mother of the Gods. ‘This alone serves them for arms, this is the safeguard of all, and by this every worshipper of the Goddess is secured even amidst his foes. Rare amongst them is the use of weapons of iron, but frequent that of clubs.’ The boar tattoo, if Tacitus can be trusted, offers an interesting comparison to the animal design of the Scots.”

Min latinske viden er ikke særlig stor, så derfor er jeg nødt til at kigge på oversættelser af Tacitus. Jeg har et par stykker, så dem har jeg kigget igennem. Det der er interessant er henvisningerne til Aestiskernes Stamme og deres brug af vildsvin som beskyttelse i kamp. Det citerede stykke (fra kapitel 45.2) lyder jo som om der er tale om billeder på kroppen. Når jeg kigger i de oversættelser jeg har, så kan jeg ikke finde belæg for denne tolkning.

I den nyeste danske oversættelse (Taticus: Germania, oversat af Allan A. Lund, Wormianum 2016) står der ”Som symbol på deres tro bærer de alle figurer af vildsvin, og det er typisk for dem at gå med denne talisman i stedet for våben”

I Taticus: Germania og Agricola oversat af H. H. Lefolii udgiver at Bonde og Bonde forlag 1966 står der ”Som et til denne gudetro hørende mærke bærer de genstande, der har skikkelse af Vildsvin”

I Tacitus: Germania 1 oversat af Niels Bruun og Allen Lund (Wormianum 1974) står der ”Som symbol for deres tro bærer de figurer af Vildsvin”.

Jeg kan som sagt ikke latin, men når nu alle de oversættelser omtaler talismænd/genstande/figurer, så er der nok ikke tale om tatoveringer.

Artiklen jeg omtaler findes her: http://www.medievalists.net/2018/05/tattooed-vikings-a-look-at-medieval-body-art/?fbclid=IwAR0FfDbOILaPz4SRHj0FGBVQFK7Omb5LL2koDf-iA0lvd5w0zQBfVGIpoFU





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Jord/Yard Meme

MiscellaneousPosted by Kim Pierri Fri, August 18, 2017 10:58:00

This meme will appear regularly in different Facebook pages.

When I read the Meme I feel it makes four statements, and I will look into each:

1. Jord was the first wife of Odin and mother of Thor.

This is true, it can be attested in the lore (look for references in Simek; Dictionary of Northern Mythology: p. 179)

2. She (Jord) was also known as mother Earth

This is a bit harder. I can’t seem to find any reference to anyone in ancient Scandinavia talking about a “Mother Earth”. It’s mainly a modern concept used to associate the same function in different mythologies around the world. It is not clear to Ymir, the giant from which Midgard was made and me the relationship with the goddess Jord.

3. Her name Jord was pronounces Yard

I don’t know which lauguage it is referring to, I don’t know old norse but in modern Scandinavian language Jord are pronounced different from the English Yard.

4. It literally means Earth or Land! And is why we call parsel of land a Yard

Let’s start with the English word Yard. There are two origins of the word yard. The first one are the measurement from the Old English word Gerd, meaning Stick/rod (from the yardstick that was used to measure length). This is not the word referred to in the Meme.

The other meaning of Yard are a "patch of ground around a house" from Old English geard or Old Norse garðr. (source http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=yard&fref=gc)

I have looked at the danish word Jord, and it has its origin in the Old Norse word jörð and the old english word eorþe. From http://ordnet.dk/ddo/ordbog?query=jord

So you see, that the old Norse/Scandinavian word Jord for earth/soil/goddess have different old Norse and old English origins. So there are no common origin between the words

I will add an observation here, that the English word Yard has a connection to the Old Norse word garðr (fence), which are part of Old Norse Miðgarðr (Midgard), which are one of the 9 worlds and the world the humans live in. But saying that because Midgard are the fenced area where the humans lives and a fenced area around you house are the same word is a bit of a stretch. I will also say that we don’t know if the Goddess are Jord are associated with Midgard, or maybe the soil.



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The story of: Viking Artefacts Discovered Near Great Lakes, USA

MigrationPosted by Kim Pierri Mon, July 17, 2017 10:38:01
World News Daily Report made some time ago another fake news story about Vikings in North America. This time they concocted story about a Viking settlement near the town of Cheboygan, on the coast of Lake Huron. You can se the fake story here:

This story was published by World News Daily Report, which are a homepage with intentional fake news. They write in their disclaimer: “WNDR assumes however all responsibility for the satirical nature of its articles and for the fictional nature of their content. All characters appearing in the articles in this website – even those based on real people – are entirely fictional and any resemblance between them and any persons, living, dead, or undead is purely a miracle.”.

There isnt much information in the fake story. I days that 194 artifacts has been found by an amateur archeologist and that the Department of Archaeology of the University of Michigan are going to take over the site. The other information in the article are some of the artifacts. As in the fake story, they made about the Mississippi Viking Ship, they have borrowed the picture from a real archeological excavation. The artifacts in the article was found in Steinkjer near Trondheim in Norway.

Source for the picture: https://archaeologynewsnetwork.blogspot.dk/2013/07/finds-hint-at-major-viking-trade-centre.html#P8ZCtUeL2Tk3Hd03.97





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"I took an arrow in the knee" is not Old Norse slang

WarriorsPosted by Kim Pierri Fri, April 21, 2017 10:21:19

Many pages are sharing the following Meme at the moment


The only thing that’s true in that meme are that it is mind blown.

The idea come from a modern game named Skyrim and was invented to make some guards have a conversation. For more information see this link





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